Rear Sight Drifting
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Rear Sight Drifting
Tried to drift out the rear sight on my 92 this evening and couldn't get the thing to budge. Musta whacked her pretty good about 2 dozen times from both sides, with no noticeable movement. Is there something else I need to remove or just try a little harder?
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Re: Rear Sight Drifting
I do not have the 92 I would think it would be the same as any other rear sight. It slides in the rear dovetail. When I removed mine from my Rio Grande to put the Skinner sights on it took some effort to get the rear sight out of the dovetail. I used a punch and hammer and it did take several good hits to get it moving.
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Re: Rear Sight Drifting
Ball peen hammer, brass or nylon drift punch, padded vise.Tuco Ramirez wrote:I do not have the 92 I would think it would be the same as any other rear sight. It slides in the rear dovetail. When I removed mine from my Rio Grande to put the Skinner sights on it took some effort to get the rear sight out of the dovetail. I used a punch and hammer and it did take several good hits to get it moving.
Remove by holding the edge of the punch against the base of the dovetail wedge and striking the punch with the hammer in the direction perpendicular to the axis of the barrel and parallel to the slip-plane formed by the base of the sight.
I generally install dovetails from right to left and remove from left to right.
Makes sure the vise has a secure grip on the barrel directly under the dovetail and not just the tube magazine so that the only mobile part of the gun will be the base and blade of the sight being removed.
You don't want to be applying pressure or pounding torque to the delicate magazine tube.
CAUTION: Some suggest solutions involving differential heating..........applying heat to pressure bearing gun parts is a job for experts only.
Sights and bases that have been "heat sweated" or glued in place will likely have to be removed by a gunsmith using special impact tools and it is not a job for neophytes & amateurs .
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Re: Rear Sight Drifting
I've been using steel punches cause that's all I have at the momment. Could that be a reason?
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Re: Rear Sight Drifting
If you're looking for a reason for any fresh dings on the barrel and sight that would definitely be the cause.357cyrus wrote:I've been using steel punches cause that's all I have at the momment. Could that be a reason?
The softer than gun metal brass/nylon punch tips are used to protect the steel of the sight and the gun from impact dings.
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Re: Rear Sight Drifting
Yikes! If the alloy of the sight is softer than the alloy of the punch, yes. You could cause the sight to "bump" tight into the dovetail. Have you ever got a lead bullet stuck in a bullet sizer, same principle.357cyrus wrote:I've been using steel punches cause that's all I have at the momment. Could that be a reason?
I would get a brass punch and try to move opposite the way you have been working it. I would take it totally out and see how it goes back in. If it binds, stop and start dressing only one side with a fine triangle file. Maintain the angle of the site base.
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Re: Rear Sight Drifting
Thanks, only a very small nick on the barrel, barelly through the bluing. The sight didn't look marred that I remember... Didn't really beat on it that hard. Just glad I asked before I started wailing away!
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Re: Rear Sight Drifting
Short piece of hard wood dowel makes a good punch for this work as well. If it doesn't work one way, try the other.
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Re: Rear Sight Drifting
If the hardwood dowel splits it can be recycled as tooth picks.Ranch Dog wrote:Short piece of hard wood dowel makes a good punch for this work as well. If it doesn't work one way, try the other.
I find brass drift punches to be the best.
The nylon punches while very strong are a bit "bouncy" and will sometimes deflect off the target area.
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Re: Rear Sight Drifting
Just wanted to give an update for those who may also struggle getting their rear sight out. Removing the sight got put on the backburner for a while. Finally last week I got a set of brass punches and went to work. Started with the basic plastic/brass mallet with no luck, ruined a new 3/16th brass punch. Tried letting some penetrating oil soak in for a few days, then a 1lb dead blow mallet with a bigger punch...ruined that punch too. Called my closest gunsmith and he said all he was gonna do was beat on it harder and harder until it came loose. So I tried the next biggest punch again with the 1lb and really ruined that one...even had the front sight come out from me whackin the rear one so hard. One punch left, the 9/16th. Figured I'd give that one a few good beatings with a 3lb hammer and if that didn't work I was gonna cut a notch in the sight to relieve some pressure. Luckily it didn't have to come to that. Two heavy blows from that 3lber and out she came. Had a beer and called it a night. Hopefully installing that ghost ring goes a little smoother!
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