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Magazine Ring and Screw

Posted: 12 Jan 2021 23:13
by BadMonk
Where's the best place to source a magazine ring and screw in .357 mag for my 92? Also need to find a Lever & Breechbolt Pin Hole Plug Screw but the mag ring is a priority. Parts - new or used - are hard to find. Is the best / only source the mother ship in GA? Thanks.

Re: Magazine Ring and Screw

Posted: 13 Jan 2021 06:33
by Ranch Dog
I would contact Rossi for the parts. Hopefully, GA is doing better than the FL group did.

Re: Magazine Ring and Screw

Posted: 14 Jan 2021 08:26
by BadMonk
Thanks, Ranch Dog.

I called Rossi for the magazine ring and was told there's a temporary hold on processing orders for parts. I seem to remember that some years ago Rossi was refusing orders for certain parts but this is just a magazine ring...nothing sinister, lol. Anyhow, I asked when the 'temporary' ban would be lifted and the rep told me they'd hope to change the policy in a couple weeks. I'll try again "in a couple weeks" to see what happens.

I don't know if that's an industry wide thing going on right now given the worldwide circumstances. But it's not a warm fuzzy when the mfg. doesn't have parts for a current model.

Re: Magazine Ring and Screw

Posted: 15 Jan 2021 06:07
by GasGuzzler
It's a foreign company and there's a bit of political unrest. I'm sure it's not related to the type of part.

Re: Magazine Ring and Screw

Posted: 15 Jan 2021 09:00
by Archer
GasGuzzler wrote:It's a foreign company and there's a bit of political unrest. I'm sure it's not related to the type of part.
Couldn't have anything to do with various lock downs in various countries interrupting supplies of raw materials from metal ore, oils, chemicals subcontracted parts to cardboard packaging, work schedules for clerks/fabricators/machinist/finishers, shipping schedules, customs inspections, state department approvals for import or export of firearms or firearms related materials. Everything is interconnected, lack of any one item in the chain can stop the production or shipment at any stage in the process.

On my last job my boss had me check into getting some fasteners. Turns out they were 'build on order' just past time production. Figure at least six months for ANY quantity left over and no less than nine months on an expedited basis for the first type/size we ordered with other types/sizes to follow at two weeks to a month each. We ended up using a more 'standard' type of hardware and it was still a constant problem to get them on hand in a timely manner. Two weeks to three months was not uncommon. Simple tubing was a royal pain to get fabricated. The key there was tooling. Seems most fab houses had very limited die sets and the tooling was six months to a year for anything outside a couple bend radii or one to three tubing sizes. A couple automotive companies that specialized in putting together race cars turned out to be the fastest and to have the most parts on hand. The company that made the parts had NOTHING and the aerospace 'prototype' house was likewise bare of fittings and very limited on die sizes.

Re: Magazine Ring and Screw

Posted: 15 Jan 2021 12:19
by Gunny268
Jack First Gun Parts...they may have what you need.

Re: Magazine Ring and Screw

Posted: 15 Jan 2021 14:32
by BadMonk
Thanks to everyone for the response. I appreciate it and learned a thing or two.

On a side note, it would be great for manufacturers of all kinds to show hardware sizes on their parts diagrams. It's especially helpful for firearm mfgs. because I can't test fit their tiny screws into boxes of labeled nuts in the garage to know what I need, like I would a 10mm bolt. Anyhow...I'll give Jack First a look-see!

Re: Magazine Ring and Screw

Posted: 16 Jan 2021 00:04
by Archer
BadMonk,
I once worked with an engineer who tried to mate a #10 METRIC Nut with a #10 Standard Bolt.
When the issue on his drawing was pointed out he initially didn't see the problem.

Primary Arms puts out rails for optics mounting on various firearms.
You have to know what your gun is and what thread pattern it uses. Some 700 Remingto rifles for example have used #8 screws on their military or tactical models while the standard screw most often used on those guns is a #6. It can be a royal pain when the same model has changed over the years. Sometimes the mounting surfaces change from round to flat or whatever.