1892 rossi 24" barrel 44mag vs 357 weight

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1892 rossi 24" barrel 44mag vs 357 weight

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Hi fellas, anyone with both calibres in the 24" octagonal ever compared the weight and handling. I actually sold my 357 as it was just a little muzzle heavy for me, the Rossis dont have much in the way of historical taper. I was thinking the 44mag would have less material in the barrel with the bigger hole, but wondered if its a noticeable difference or negligible?
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Re: 1892 rossi 24" barrel 44mag vs 357 weight

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Good question. I have the .357 SS model and I know what you mean by "muzzle heavy"
The round barrel 20" carbines in .357 vs 44 have such a small difference in OD it's not worth mentioning. I've read that they use the same barrel blank. If somebody can post up the 44 OD I'll dig mine out of the safe and measure it.
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Re: 1892 rossi 24" barrel 44mag vs 357 weight

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I'll have to dig mine out of the home defense locker. It might take a day or three to get around to it.

I have the 24" .44 Mag Octagonal, the 20" .44 Mag RB and the .357 20" RB.
I have looked the .357 24" Oct over but haven't picked one up mostly because I haven't found one at what I consider to be the right price AND I consider the 20" to be a superior handling gun given the caliber.

With respect to the 20" RBs, I have the impression that the .357 is a bit lighter built than the .44 Mag.

BTW: Currently Rossi lists the same weights for the octagonals regardless of the caliber at 120 oz.
The .357 20" RB is listed at 96oz and the .44 Mag 20" RB is listed at 90 oz.
That doesn't seem right but might be possible or it might be a difference in the weight of the wood on the measured samples.

They have REALLY cut down on the number of offered models. 5 or 7 years ago there were three or four pages just of the 92s with a lot smaller text. Back then they offered Blued, Stainless, CCH and Brass frames in 4 calibers with 16" and 20" barrels in carbines and the same 4 calibers in both 20" and 24" barreled octagonal rifles. They might have still had the 454 and 480 in the catalog back then as well. They had at least 3 calibers of the Rio Grande and I saw them in both blued and stainless.
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Re: 1892 rossi 24" barrel 44mag vs 357 weight

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Just speculating, but it seems the larger bore decreases the weight. While this is an apple, oranges, peaches comparison, I have three 92's in different calibers from three manufacturers -- all with 20" round barrels. My Rossi R92 (.38/.357) weighs 6.1 pounds; my Chiappa 92 (.44/40) weighs 5.9 pounds; and my Browning B92 (.44 mag) weighs 5.6 pounds. While wood densities would be different, there's obviously less steel in the .44-bored barrels than the .357-bored barrel.
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Re: 1892 rossi 24" barrel 44mag vs 357 weight

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I got a weight on the following:

Rossi 92 20" Round Barrel blued finish in .357 Magnum (Braztech ~2013-2014? unmodified): 5lb 15.2 oz

Rossi 92 20" Round Barrel Stainless finish in .44 Magnum (Braztech ~2013 unmodified): 5lbs 14.1 oz

1 ounce difference in the two 20" round barreled guns. THAT is within the differences in wood density gun to gun.

The outside dimensions at the muzzle of the barrel are approximately the same .650" for the .357 and .645" for the .44 Mag. I did not check the barrel profile at the receiver. The OD of the magazine tube on the .357 is ~.550" while the .44 is ~.645". The forward barrel band on the .357 is somewhat smaller on the lower lobe to match the difference in mag tube. The hole in the fore end is also smaller on the .357 leading to a bit more wood volume than is on the .44 Mag. I suspect the difference in the barrel by the bore diameter is offset by the difference in diameter of the mag tube.

I can't get an exact read on the weight of the .44 Mag 24" octagonal SS rifle.
My kitchen scale flakes out at 6.6 lbs and the digital bathroom scale won't give a reading that small while the dial bathroom scale reads somewhere less than 8 lbs and more than 7 but does not graduate fine enough to tell you much closer than that. Assuming the same barrel profiles between the calibers I again suspect the differences in magazine tube offset enough to make the weight between one and the other a wash.
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Re: 1892 rossi 24" barrel 44mag vs 357 weight

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Yeah, most kitchen scales max out at 7 - 8 lb. Step on the bathroom scale to get your weight. Cradle your rifle lovingly in your arms and step on the bathroom scale again. The difference is the weight of the rifle. Close enough for UPS.
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Re: 1892 rossi 24" barrel 44mag vs 357 weight

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Just weighing myself I get enough variation that it isn't worth reporting.

The initial poster is looking for something that would get lost in a quarter pound.
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Re: 1892 rossi 24" barrel 44mag vs 357 weight

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Archer wrote:I got a weight on the following:

Rossi 92 20" Round Barrel blued finish in .357 Magnum (Braztech ~2013-2014? unmodified): 5lb 15.2 oz

Rossi 92 20" Round Barrel Stainless finish in .44 Magnum (Braztech ~2013 unmodified): 5lbs 14.1 oz

1 ounce difference in the two 20" round barreled guns. THAT is within the differences in wood density gun to gun.

The outside dimensions at the muzzle of the barrel are approximately the same .650" for the .357 and .645" for the .44 Mag. I did not check the barrel profile at the receiver. The OD of the magazine tube on the .357 is ~.550" while the .44 is ~.645". The forward barrel band on the .357 is somewhat smaller on the lower lobe to match the difference in mag tube. The hole in the fore end is also smaller on the .357 leading to a bit more wood volume than is on the .44 Mag. I suspect the difference in the barrel by the bore diameter is offset by the difference in diameter of the mag tube.

I can't get an exact read on the weight of the .44 Mag 24" octagonal SS rifle.
My kitchen scale flakes out at 6.6 lbs and the digital bathroom scale won't give a reading that small while the dial bathroom scale reads somewhere less than 8 lbs and more than 7 but does not graduate fine enough to tell you much closer than that. Assuming the same barrel profiles between the calibers I again suspect the differences in magazine tube offset enough to make the weight between one and the other a wash.
You didn't happen to measure the barrel OD on the octagon 44 did ya?
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Re: 1892 rossi 24" barrel 44mag vs 357 weight

Post by Archer »

No, but since I still have it out so I can do a little preventative cleaning I was able to slap the calipers on it and got .810" flat to flat. (Maybe .865" corner to corner but that's a little less sure.)
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