Rifle/shotgun Action Questions

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Rifle/shotgun Action Questions

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I'm recovering from minor knee surgery today and researching future projects. One thing I'd like to build is a Rook rifle. A 357 mag necked down to 30 cal seems to be popular and provides cheap, mild loads. One popular approach is to build a barrel stub rifle off a cheap single shot rifle or shotgun. From my limited experience handling them in gun shops, it seems like the Rossi action is smaller than the H&R - which makes the Rossi more appealing to me.
So, I have some questions about the Rossi actions. Is there a difference in the frame size between the 410/22 frames and the other larger shotgun frames ? How do either compare to the rifle frames?
Do the shotgun frames have larger firing pins? H&R shotguns need to have the firing pin holes bushed smaller.
Are the shotgun frames strong enough for pistol-power loads? Or maybe 30/30?

I'm thinking there may be some real deals out there soon with Black Friday coming up. Walmart has 20% off and may have something cheap.

Thanks.
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Re: Rifle/shotgun Action Questions

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Yes the 22/410 frame is smaller than the 20/12 ga combo barrel sets. The firing pin appears to be smaller than typically used on shotguns and should function Fon on your "rook" what type of speed will u get out your 30/357 mag round. You might consider chambering for 30 herret and 357 herret. Dies are available chep and brass. Is reformed from 30-30 win. It can be down-loaded with lead bullets and be pleasant plinkers. +guns
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I read that the 410 frames are cast iron so if I go that direction I'll keep the loads mild. Some guys are running 38 special cases in 30 Mauser, 7.62 Tok, or 300 Blackout to neck down and then use a 357 die to size the base if needed. Limit of this round on a cast iron action is around a 150 gr bullet @ 1500 fps, but the real purpose is a subsonic plinking pest round. A 113gr bullet going 600fps should let you quietly take care of that possum in your yard at midnight.

However, using a rifle action and 357 mag or max brass can get you to short range deer hunting territory.
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Jhirbirt wrote:reply deleted
I'm not sure what this has to do with my topic, but welcome to the forum!
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klr wrote:
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Were the actions used on the original Rossi single-shots in pistol calibers (.357, .44 Magnum; .45 Colt) the same as the action used on the current .410/.45 Colt combination set?

I would like a small game rifle using a small .32 pistol caliber (.32 S&W; .32 ACP; .32 S&W Long; .32 H&R) but want a very light compact gun hopefully about 4.5 pounds for easy carrying.
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