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R92 .357 chamber question

Posted: 26 Nov 2021 13:05
by Dad45
First I have 3 R92’s 1 older 45, 1 newer .44 and after wanting I finally picked up a stainless 20” .357 and my question concerns the .357, the question is this is it normal for these to have the bottom of the chambers to be kind of ramped? It almost looks like the forcing cone on a revolver but just the bottom half and is approx 1/4 to 3/8” deep. The problem is it deforms the brass to the point they are unusable, also it seems lower end charges are not as bad. In comparison the 44 just has the entrance to the chamber a tad rounded or beveled and that’s it. Or could this be more of a brass issue?
Other than that the gun shoots just fine, ejects fine. If I was going to stick to lower end loads it probably would be fine but I do want to hunt with it.
By the way I have run different factory and hand loads with similar results
I am going to send it in for service and assume it will get re barreled
Again just curious if this has been a known issue or if I just got an isolated case

I do really like the 92 design and have gotten lots of enjoyment from the other 2 I own

Re: R92 .357 chamber question

Posted: 26 Nov 2021 13:47
by Reese-Mo

Re: R92 .357 chamber question

Posted: 26 Nov 2021 16:34
by Dad45
Thanks Reese-Mo for the link as I read it it seems to be more directed at cut notches which is different from my situation which looks similar to a forcing cone on a revolver. I tried to post a pic of the spent brass which would best explain the problem but the software says my file size from my cell phone pic is to large and I don’t use hosting sites
Thanks again for trying

Re: R92 .357 chamber question

Posted: 26 Nov 2021 17:24
by Ohio3Wheels
Dad45 wrote:First I have 3 R92’s 1 older 45, 1 newer .44 and after wanting I finally picked up a stainless 20” .357 and my question concerns the .357, the question is this is it normal for these to have the bottom of the chambers to be kind of ramped? It almost looks like the forcing cone on a revolver but just the bottom half and is approx 1/4 to 3/8” deep. The problem is it deforms the brass to the point they are unusable, also it seems lower end charges are not as bad. In comparison the 44 just has the entrance to the chamber a tad rounded or beveled and that’s it. Or could this be more of a brass issue?
Other than that the gun shoots just fine, ejects fine. If I was going to stick to lower end loads it probably would be fine but I do want to hunt with it.
By the way I have run different factory and hand loads with similar results
I am going to send it in for service and assume it will get re barreled
Again just curious if this has been a known issue or if I just got an isolated case

I do really like the 92 design and have gotten lots of enjoyment from the other 2 I own
Unfortunately this has been a common problem, particularly with the .357 92s. I've never sent anything back to Rossi and frankly hope I never have to do so. The tales on the list lean toward not the desired results after significant time the rifles have come back with "nothing found" as a reply and the problem clearly still present. Best of luck.

Make smoke,

Re: R92 .357 chamber question

Posted: 26 Nov 2021 20:10
by Archer
There have been some complaints that some of the Rossi barrels have been excessively 'feed ramped'.
In some cases this has been observed when a R92 has been returned for servicing with a complaint regarding feeding. In others the rifle out of the box has been observed to allow the 'pregnant brass' syndrome on ejected brass most often observed from the 'unsupported' Glock barrels. There have also been some owners who have tried to fix feeding issues through ramping the barrel themselves so if the firearm was acquired used there's no guarantee it wasn't modified by a previous user or someone they had given it to as a gunsmith to fix who decided to dremel a feedramp into it.

This is a most undesirable 'feature' of some of these rifles IMO. While it may make feeding somewhat easier and it might be perfectly safe for factory ammunition or virgin brass reloads it makes reloading the brass questionable at best. One of my three rifles may be showing a very mild version of this and I need to get it out to the range with some warmish loads to verify that does or does not have this problem.

Re: R92 .357 chamber question

Posted: 26 Nov 2021 21:13
by Reese-Mo
There's a picture in the thread I linked to. Thought that might help

Re: R92 .357 chamber question

Posted: 26 Nov 2021 23:10
by Dad45
Thanks I’m going to look further when I get home and can review that on my computer screen rather than the cell phone

Re: R92 .357 chamber question

Posted: 27 Nov 2021 23:50
by Dad45
A little update kind of, I stopped at a shop today that has four 357 triple black and two in 44 on the shelf and looked at all them and out of the 4 in 357 three of them displayed the same characteristics as mine and one looked like I think it should and both 44’s looked ok as well.
When I get some time hopefully later in the week I will go about getting it sent in for inspection and hopefully repairs, I assume this will take plenty of time but but it’s that or stick with very mild ammo and I do really like the darn thing. If I can figure out how to get some pics with file sizes that can be posted I will do that
Such is life

Re: R92 .357 chamber question

Posted: 28 Nov 2021 06:09
by GasGuzzler
I would start by trying to get it replaced from the beginning. We have heard stories of them keeping riffles for months and sending them back as no issue found OR keeping them for a year without result.

Re: R92 .357 chamber question

Posted: 28 Nov 2021 08:05
by Dad45
GasGuzzler wrote:I would start by trying to get it replaced from the beginning. We have heard stories of them keeping riffles for months and sending them back as no issue found OR keeping them for a year without result.
Thanks for the info I will try that