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Re: Another Hog, This One With A Savage 340
Posted: 10 Feb 2016 18:34
by klr
Ranch Dog wrote:klr wrote:Great work! I was unaware that JB weld was strong enough to hold a scope.
...and I agree about the short bolt throw.
I used it on my Rossi R92 based on what a gunsmith told me. This fellow installs scout mounts on hard recoil rifles, he did my R92 480 Ruger, but he won't do the work if the owner will not allow him to JB Weld them down. He works with the XS Clifton Mounts, they recommend Brownells ACRAGLAS® but don't advertise the strength of their product. The gunsmith states that if it was really strong they would. He has reversed engineered the product from the label and say's that JB Weld is much tougher.
Brownells ACRAGLAS® (approximate):
Flex Strength: 5600 PSI
Tensile Strength: 2800 PSI
Melts: 250°
JB Weld:
Flex Strength: 7320 PSI
Tensile Strength: 3960 PSI
Melts: Continuous 500°, up to 10 minutes at 600°
The temperature extremes differences are just as large.
Thanks for the info. This opens up some options for a scout scope mount on my model 65. Have you removed a mount after using the JB Weld? I'm interested in what it does to the bluing. It would be nice if it was reversible in the event I want to sell the rifle.
Re: Another Hog, This One With A Savage 340
Posted: 10 Feb 2016 19:39
by Ranch Dog
klr wrote:Thanks for the info. This opens up some options for a scout scope mount on my model 65. Have you removed a mount after using the JB Weld? I'm interested in what it does to the bluing. It would be nice if it was reversible in the event I want to sell the rifle.
The only way to remove it would be to grind it off. You must be certain you want the base on the barrel.
Re: Another Hog, This One With A Savage 340
Posted: 10 Feb 2016 20:35
by klr
Ranch Dog wrote:klr wrote:Thanks for the info. This opens up some options for a scout scope mount on my model 65. Have you removed a mount after using the JB Weld? I'm interested in what it does to the bluing. It would be nice if it was reversible in the event I want to sell the rifle.
The only way to remove it would be to grind it off. You must be certain you want the base on the barrel.
That's what I figured. However, I recently removed a brazed front sight from my Enfield. I ground it down to about 1/16" thick and then heated it with a micro torch. Being that it was that thin the heat transferred quickly and I was able to pop it off without putting much heat into the barrel. I wonder if something like that would work with JB?
One way to find out - I have the thin piece of Enfield front sight, a piece of Rossi barrel I cut off my 243, and JB weld. I'll report back in a week if anyone is interested.
Re: Another Hog, This One With A Savage 340
Posted: 10 Feb 2016 21:17
by Ranch Dog
Yeap, that is a great idea.
Re: Another Hog, This One With A Savage 340
Posted: 10 Feb 2016 21:18
by GasGuzzler
I ASSume we're all interested. Tests are fun.
Re: Another Hog, This One With A Savage 340
Posted: 10 Feb 2016 21:35
by klr
Ok, the JB Weld is curing now.
BTW, sorry about the thread hijack. If you want, delete my stuff and I'll start a thread when I attempt to separate the two parts.
Re: Another Hog, This One With A Savage 340
Posted: 10 Feb 2016 22:05
by Ranch Dog
klr wrote:Ok, the JB Weld is curing now.
BTW, sorry about the thread hijack. If you want, delete my stuff and I'll start a thread when I attempt to separate the two parts.
It is all good, I can split it out later. You might want to let it cure four days to a week.
Re: Another Hog, This One With A Savage 340
Posted: 10 Feb 2016 22:35
by pacificpt
Very interesting rifle. I really like when someone has an idea for a rifle and can work through the problems associated with making one work from existing pieces. Great information, and really nice porker.
Re: Another Hog, This One With A Savage 340
Posted: 11 Feb 2016 08:12
by Ranch Dog
Thank you! I was a lot of fun working on this. Everyone that has handled the rifle to date has been very impressed with old fellow's new life.
Re: Another Hog, This One With A Savage 340
Posted: 11 Feb 2016 13:34
by btoran
nice story and outcome. bacon, anyone?