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Stubborn screw in Winchester 1892

Posted: 14 Dec 2013 19:33
by Rtbender
One of my dads buddies saw a picture of my Rossi 92 and said "hey I've got one of those you should check it out for me." What he brought to me was a surprise, he had a 1920s Winchester 1892 sporting. Looked like it hadn't been cleaned for 60 years so I took it home and now I'm regretting it. Every part of the disassembly has been extremely difficult. Right now I'm fighting the main spring screw and I could use some suggestions. I tried heating it with no luck and also let it soak in liquid wrench penetration oil for a few hours, that didn't work either.

Should I soak it in penetration oil for longer? How long?

I found another forum post for a magazine screw where someone soaked it over night in motor oil. Will someone please shared their methods with me?

If worse comes to worse does anyone know where I can find a replacement screw?

Re: Stubborn screw in Winchester 1892

Posted: 16 Dec 2013 22:47
by Conman
Well, sorry to hear about the bad problems!!!

I'm no help on removing the screw; although most people I read about let the Kroil set for a day or so to really soak in to get tough screws/bolts loose.

However, here is a link to parts for 92's: http://homesteadparts.com/shopcart/Winchester_1892.htm

Hope you don't have to use them.

Luck

Re: Stubborn screw in Winchester 1892

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 00:50
by akuser47
I would give the oil time most the liqiud wrench say 24 hours for good penetration. Give it time it should get it loose for you. I have worked on alot of original 1892's lately and it took time to soak for them to give it up to me so that I could get inside them give it time they will give.
Edited to add most penetraing oils state in the their directions to give it 24 hours for stuburn screws Namely PB or LW. I do think PB works faster and better.

Re: Stubborn screw in Winchester 1892

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 08:40
by Rtbender
I let it set in the penetrating oil for about 36 hours and still couldn't budge it with a screw driver. I ended up filing down a bit for my electric impact driver and it zipped right out.

Conan, thanks for the parts website! I got lucky and won't need the screws but the extractor is giving me problems... Only wants to pull the round out 75% of the time. Prices seem fair enough, have you ordered from them in the past?

Re: Stubborn screw in Winchester 1892

Posted: 18 Dec 2013 14:55
by Missionary
Greetings
Over the years down here I have had 4 1892's, the newest being made in 1908. All have had a good amount of crud in the extractor channel in the top of the bolt. I would remove that first, clean and oil the channel. Having done that even my SRC made in 1893, a 44WCF works like new. Chomping a cookie while I jab keys. Always assume "crud" is the culprit with old firearms (Newer ones also) unless you see a broken part.
Mike in Peru

Re: Stubborn screw in Winchester 1892

Posted: 18 Dec 2013 18:08
by Maximumbob54
I cannot second Kroil enough. That stuff is like magic. No other oil I know of will start to lift out lead from a leaded barrel. I currently need to order more as I cannot find it local and that just galls me.

Re: Stubborn screw in Winchester 1892

Posted: 19 Dec 2013 16:50
by Rtbender
Never heard of kroil, I'll check it out in the future. I wiped the extractor channel out and was still having problems. I'm thinking a wire brush might solve it.

Thanks for the advise.

Re: Stubborn screw in Winchester 1892

Posted: 21 Dec 2013 23:56
by Rooster59
For loosening stuck/rusted parts I use PB Blaster. It s much more powerful than typical hardware or automotive penetrating oils. PB is all that will penetrate the sliding adjustment plates on my tractor's fertilizer spreader. Nitrogen fertilizer will rust them up in days. That rust laughs off any other penetrant. FWIW

Re: Stubborn screw in Winchester 1892

Posted: 22 Dec 2013 06:05
by akuser47
Rooster59 wrote:For loosening stuck/rusted parts I use PB Blaster. It s much more powerful than typical hardware or automotive penetrating oils. PB is all that will penetrate the sliding adjustment plates on my tractor's fertilizer spreader. Nitrogen fertilizer will rust them up in days. That rust laughs off any other penetrant. FWIW
I second PB and kroil awesome penetrating oils.

Re: Stubborn screw in Winchester 1892

Posted: 22 Dec 2013 14:05
by Conman
Rtbender wrote:I let it set in the penetrating oil for about 36 hours and still couldn't budge it with a screw driver. I ended up filing down a bit for my electric impact driver and it zipped right out.

Conan, thanks for the parts website! I got lucky and won't need the screws but the extractor is giving me problems... Only wants to pull the round out 75% of the time. Prices seem fair enough, have you ordered from them in the past?
Sorry I took so long. To get back.

Yes, I have ordered from them with no issues.

Good luck with the rifle.