Re: Developing/Choosing a Hunting Bullet for a Win 30-30
Posted: 05 Feb 2015 13:31
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In researching a throating reamer I found some conflicting opinions about its use in a lever action: One line of thinking is that the chamber is cut that way for the use of jacketed bullets. They will touch the rifling while still being short enough to feed through the 94 action. Cutting a taper in the rifling will create a jump for the bullet that hurts accuracy and bullets can't be seated out and still feed through the action.
The bullet RD designed takes a taper into account, but I don't know if I want to hurt my accuracy with jacketed.
So, I stumbled on a deal on jacketed 170gr Hornady RN bullets and decided to do some experimenting.
My backdoor range is 55 yds, so all my shooting was done at that range.
It took 3 attempts, but I quickly found a load using IMR 3031 that produced about 1950fps and shot the Hornadys into a little less than 3/4" group. I'm sure I could tweak it for better accuracy, but this was good enough to eliminate my rifle as a variable.
But I really want to use a cast bullet and I wanted to try RD's design approach. I didn't have a mold cut, but I did modify a cheap Lee mold to incorporate those concepts - i.e. - a nose lightly engaging the rifling and a front driving band entering in the rifling.
So I cut the nose off a Lee mold. The resulting bullet is slightly under max COAL, feeds through the action, the nose lightly engraves the rifling, and the front driving band enters into the rifling. As a bonus I have a .250 meplat and a 163gr bullet.
It took a couple attempts, but I shot a .85" group at 1950fps. I did have to open the mold .003 to get the nose size up and the two halves are misaligned by about .001", but I think this proves the concept of RD's approach to designing a bullet for the 94 30-30. I'm going to do some more experimenting with this mold and then likely order a good one to RD's specs.
Thanks, Ranch Dog, for designing a great bullet and educating me about how it fits/works in my rifle.
Experimental Bullet:
![Image](http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp330/305178/Lee%20Mod3_zpsifjxffnl.jpg)
Mold Mod:
![Image](http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp330/305178/Lee%20Mod5_zpsqlxb529b.jpg)
Bullet size can be modified slightly by closing mold on a piece of paper and then moving bars together:
![Image](http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp330/305178/Lee%20Mod_zpsquac7m2c.jpg)
Resulting group. .085 @ 55 yds @ 1950fps. First two are touching. This rifle seems to keep the first two close with all of the cast loads I've tried.
![Image](http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp330/305178/Lee%20Mod%20results_zpskqvrbvqf.jpg)
In researching a throating reamer I found some conflicting opinions about its use in a lever action: One line of thinking is that the chamber is cut that way for the use of jacketed bullets. They will touch the rifling while still being short enough to feed through the 94 action. Cutting a taper in the rifling will create a jump for the bullet that hurts accuracy and bullets can't be seated out and still feed through the action.
The bullet RD designed takes a taper into account, but I don't know if I want to hurt my accuracy with jacketed.
So, I stumbled on a deal on jacketed 170gr Hornady RN bullets and decided to do some experimenting.
My backdoor range is 55 yds, so all my shooting was done at that range.
It took 3 attempts, but I quickly found a load using IMR 3031 that produced about 1950fps and shot the Hornadys into a little less than 3/4" group. I'm sure I could tweak it for better accuracy, but this was good enough to eliminate my rifle as a variable.
But I really want to use a cast bullet and I wanted to try RD's design approach. I didn't have a mold cut, but I did modify a cheap Lee mold to incorporate those concepts - i.e. - a nose lightly engaging the rifling and a front driving band entering in the rifling.
So I cut the nose off a Lee mold. The resulting bullet is slightly under max COAL, feeds through the action, the nose lightly engraves the rifling, and the front driving band enters into the rifling. As a bonus I have a .250 meplat and a 163gr bullet.
It took a couple attempts, but I shot a .85" group at 1950fps. I did have to open the mold .003 to get the nose size up and the two halves are misaligned by about .001", but I think this proves the concept of RD's approach to designing a bullet for the 94 30-30. I'm going to do some more experimenting with this mold and then likely order a good one to RD's specs.
Thanks, Ranch Dog, for designing a great bullet and educating me about how it fits/works in my rifle.
Experimental Bullet:
![Image](http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp330/305178/Lee%20Mod3_zpsifjxffnl.jpg)
Mold Mod:
![Image](http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp330/305178/Lee%20Mod5_zpsqlxb529b.jpg)
Bullet size can be modified slightly by closing mold on a piece of paper and then moving bars together:
![Image](http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp330/305178/Lee%20Mod_zpsquac7m2c.jpg)
Resulting group. .085 @ 55 yds @ 1950fps. First two are touching. This rifle seems to keep the first two close with all of the cast loads I've tried.
![Image](http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp330/305178/Lee%20Mod%20results_zpskqvrbvqf.jpg)